Nice ..... the Foxy Combat looks great from what's up theere so far ! Can't wait for more .
Also, the one match from DWW that has Nadege in an outdoor event catfight ... any DWW expert here that can identify that one ? This is one thing missing about Barb's old board ; ask this there and you'd get 19 responses immediately.
Thanks for the great links . the Foxy Combat is an especially good find !
Thanks for the offer but for some reason it's different now .... Yesterday one of those 'bikini wrestling' opened to a DWW outdoor event involving Nadege in a catfight/wrestling match with another hottie that certainly wasn't a pushover for Nadege. Nadege won that round that was posted but I would have loved to see the whole thing as it had to be a great match. When I clik on any of them now I get the same oil wrestling in a ring ... hot girls but not the stuff of Fighting Style, DWW or VSL.
I know producers hate when their stuff is shown around like that but the last five DVD's I purchased were all from seeing clips of them on these sites.
No , not it but I have that one and it is excellent if you like it rough. That was a little too rough for me only because I hated seeing Nadege getting bloodied . I wouldn't have liked it the other way around either but especially not one of my favorites. But that's going to happen when you have skilled fighters slapping like that.
Anyway, the one that I saw that was posted was outdoors but under their tent / mat arrangement as most of their tournaments are , with the on lookers seated along the edge, etc. The one fall that was posted showed Nadege on the recieving end early, than making a big comeback for the submission. The girl she fought was her size, attractive with med length hair. This was not a topless match. I know this describes about 889 DWW fights but that's the problem with looking anything up on their site unless you know the title or number.
I appreciate your help, though. Thanks alot for taking the time to look into it :>)
Panther100, thanks for these links. I especially liked Foxy Combat. That looks promising. In that first trailer, there's an excellent body scissors hold (just for a few seconds, though). Love the facial expressions, with one girl in complete control and her opponent showing obvious discomfort, to say the least. I just had to make a quick snapshot of this:
Also, very good clip of Nadege, fighting that blonde. Nadege sure knows how to squeeze those scissors! Tomas, thank you for this one. I've been a member of DWW a few years ago...maybe I'll pay them a visit again.
Foxy Combat: the Photoshopped version of DWW. Same girls, smoother skin. I can't tell all those blondes apart.
Their top-billed fighter would seem to be Sandra, who is known as Gloria on DWW: http://www.foxycombat.com/go.php5?action=getImage&ppath=/customer/200349/data/www.foxycombat.com_data/ladies/Sandra.jpg&width=300
But I like Paula. She looks like trouble: http://www.foxycombat.com/go.php5?action=getImage&ppath=/customer/200349/data/www.foxycombat.com_data/ladies/107.jpg&width=300
Some of their catfights appear to include biting, so I suppose they're semi-competitive at most, which is a pity: http://www.foxycombat.com/go.php5?action=getImage&ppath=/customer/200349/data/www.foxycombat.com_data/videos/07_035/pics/07_035_PreviewPics_001.JPG
The mat wrestling is fully competitive judging from the trailers.
I absolutely loathe their token system. Minimum amount of tokens to buy is 15, and clips cost 10-12 tokens. That means you're really paying for one clip and a half, only you can't actually download that extra half unless you purchase more tokens. If you don't purchase any more tokens, you've spent $40 on 20 minutes of video, which is steep, especially when in several cases you can watch the same two women fight by the same rules on DWW for $15.
The site badly needs preview clips (30 s or so) of each fight. When that's missing, I never know whether it's because bandwidth is expensive or because they lack faith in their own product.
My own personal wish is that they should do more elaborate set-ups than "two women in tangas on a mat". Long staredowns and threatening trash talk, stripping off sexy costumes, circling each other before the fight, etc. Then they'll have my money.
I waited and waited for this sexy wrestling site to open, but now I'm disappointed because of the token system. Like you pointed out, you're screwed on every purchace. You're paying for the match you want to see plus giving them a '50% deposit' on the next one. WTF ???
That little scam doesn't sit well with me ... irritates me enough to skip joining even though I've been drooling over the site and trailers since Panther posted the link weeks ago.
Imagine buying a DVD and they not only charged you for the DVD but also wanted half of the next one youmight buy ? No company in their right mind would do that so why do it on a download - unless they feel they might never see you again after you watch your first purchase.
I'd now have to see many more clips or read some very convincing reviews before joining ... and I was ready to download something right now - but the payment scam changed my mind.
They say they've fixed all the mistakes on the site ? In my opinion they 'overlooked' a big one with the payment system they decided to use.
I joined not soon after I saw it, it was pretty much exactly what I had been looking for.
For the membership it is pictures only, but the site is fairly new
Must agree about the token system, it is a major drawback, its the equivalent of paying around $70 an hour (or less). Hopefully as the site develops they'll change this
Also prefer the just two girls going at it, instead of the scenario stuff.
It looks like what I like too, but I'm put off by the token over payment scam. I'm getting tires for my truck this week ; I'll **** if I have to also pay a 50% deposit for the next set I'll eventually need.
How are the picture galleries ; how many pics in them ? ( LOL, I keep looking for a good reason to join since I looked forward to it fo so long )
If they went to a fair purchasing system, I'd have already downloaded a couple matches.
the members area confused me at first as its set out no different from the mainsite, just theres more pictures available per page on the members pages.
At present there are 39 galleries, averaging between 30-40 pictures each, all of a good size.
WEBSITES 101 AND COSTS~ In this day and age bandwidth is alot more reasonable and if it isn't for some sites they really should go to another hosting provider. Infact, some allow nearly endless traffic and you'll get an extra 30 cents added to your bill a month. Alot of hosting companies WANT traffic!!!
The cost per women to participate should be where anyones cost is going along with % to your creditcard processor per sale. Ofcourse alot of sites now pay to advertise and that aint cheap and in reality it doesn't do much. Our community although considered small takes care of everybody. And sooner or later a real "fan" will find a site and pay for something/anything before some dude just surfing and hadn't ever seen a fem/fem match.
Largely its hard to take credit cards for adult sites and get a reasonable rate. Alot of "adult" oriented sites use various credit card processing companies which bite a huge chunk out of your monthly income. Typically its 10-18 % from each check. It adds up. Ofcourse selling a vid through someone like paypal should cheapen the cost, but noone ever seems to relay the break to the customer. But, again a paysite is different and usually to process various credit cards (visa, mastercard) can cost more with anual fees! 15 bucks for a match (with token system) and multiply by lets say 30 times is $450.00. There ... one participant is paid for. Ofcourse you only gets parts of the match so normally you can double that stat seeing the customer wants to see an entire match. I can say its safe to imagine these sites get more than 30 bites a month. Try like atleast a hundred to acouple hundred so I don't feel sorry for them. I'm not saying its greed, but its the cost of living, the cost of business (LOL) basically someone wants to live large and I don't blame them. Hell, what a life having to pay half nakid women to wrassle and then have others pay for your live fetish!!!
I distaste companies that have been selling a video for over 10-20 years and continue to distribute for over 50 bucks. Although many do. They paid for that service a long time ago. Now its just free money coming in without any consideration for the fans. Relay that to your site owners and maybe they will wake up, help the fans and still make money.
Largely its hard to take credit cards for adult sites and get a reasonable rate. Alot of "adult" oriented sites use various credit card processing companies which bite a huge chunk out of your monthly income. Typically its 10-18 % from each check. It adds up.
If true, the Geico caveman oughtta club somebody at the bank and pound some sense into 'em. *
I thought it was more into the realm of 3 to 5% per check/transaction, but 10 to 18% belongs in the s h i t p i t, imho.
Is it any wonder more potential producers don't get into this endeavor ?
Like I've said a million times before, all of us fans oughtta just be glad and thankful to have you and the other pro's out there.
* (Failing that, use Mule-lysses Ass Grant's fat ass. Same result.)
First off after reading this I didn't mean to put the company mentioned above in the spotlight or use them specifically as an example. Just the rate charged ect. I'm just throwing out ballpark numbers.
Greetings Panther!
Yeah, take a look at companies like ccbill and so forth. Read what they take from the website owners ... its pathetic and even more so when companies like Ibill (who are not in business) charged over 15% and in the end stole millions from website owners. Alot of the fem fight industry was hit and some hugely hurt by this. Tons of "legit" merchants won't touch an adult site even though they'd make a killing. Only hurting themselves in my eyes and would be another way they could relieve their customers of tacked on/hidden fees in the long run. No brainers, but like most companies I'd bet they imploy their nefew who just got outta college after 15 years of it.
When I see a visa commercial and they are paying some "top notch" celebrity to be on it, it pisses me off knowing each and every web owner pays alittle extra because of it. (LOL) Theres alot of redtape and BS behind the scenes believe me.
Companies like paypal and ebay charge a small % for their service. But, they don't allow adult oriented sites to do actual "memberships". Just sales of certain adult items and merchandise. Although its one of the first places people shop for porn and adult stuff. (LOL)
Its like the jerry springer shows disclaimer form those nut-jobbers sign before going on his show. In big bold letters .... <B>No fighting!</B>