I am trying to get to the roots of my deep interest in this aspect of my sexuality and just last week began a blog where I hope to share and explore with others the roots of our common interest. What are our similarities? What impact has this had on our adult lives? I'd be very interested in as much feedback as possible.
Good initiative. I'll be dropping by regularly to read your posts.
My personal story is similar to yours. My fascination with women's wrestling/fighting pre-dates my puberty. I'd fantasize about girls I knew fighting each other, and desperately try to find scenes of it in movies and TV shows, mostly in vain. As I entered puberty, it became sexually charged. As soon as I got Internet access, I did an Altavista search for "catfight" and found quite a market.
Human sexuality is still a mystery. I believe that as soon as it's in development, we will unconsciously form mental connections between sex and certain elements in our environment. Typically, those elements will be naked, healthy-looking members of the opposite sex. But many of us will for various reasons develop different connections, maybe as a result of some particularly impressive experience. Women wrestling or fighting each other is still quite rare. The novelty and surprise that we felt when we first imagined it (or witnessed it) is probably part of the explanation. Also, sex is generally connected to visceral sensations of bodily contact. Watching two women wrestling, we're aware that they're both physically caught up in the moment and pressing their bodies against each other. Third, I clearly remember that as a child I already had the common male fantasy of women fighting over me (and that was before I had any idea what I actually wanted to DO with them...).
Lets face it we're all abunch of perverts with mental issues ....
ok, I'm speaking for myself. Theres many things that contribute to likes, dislikes etc. Growing up I don't know about you guys but I watched wrestling every saturday morning religiously. I recall seeing the women wrestling and "bling!" Semi (tehehe) pritty women in swim-suits pulling hair and kicking. Christ, that and the wrestling mags I had was one outlet of where I had actual women half naked in my little mind and it was ok. If some lady was stripping down or doing a dirty deed on a tv movie or show my Mom would change the channel. But, if women were wrasslin ... I mean whats so wrong about that? Same with the wrestling books I had. They weren't playboy or anything "dirty" so to speak. So it was my little secret I guess. My parents didn't look at wrestling mags so I was in the clear to dream about it any way I wanted. That sparked alot of things I'd say. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Being a mear 5 or maybe 6 years old I recall being at my mom's friends house where there were two little girls i use to play with. One time out of the blue I told one to pull the other ones hair. WHY? Because i knew she would and it gave me a cheap ass thrill even being that young.
I've questioned myself throughout life. Sure, I'm alittle tapped at times, but blend in normally throughout life. Ok, in some retrospect i stand out but its not like I'm a nutbag running around asking chicks to beat each other up so I can watch. But, still I often wonder is it right? Hell yeah ... if others can beat their meat to chicks being tighed up or whipped I'd say I'm small beans in the morals of life. Theres a fetish, kink or whatever you wanna call it in EVERYONE'S mind not just the "wrasslin' worshippers!
So I quit wondering why and just go with it. You'll never find out the true answer. I don't think your "born with it" like some say. But, 9 times outta 10 your "brought up with it" somehow. Either by witnessing it early or being thought you had. Maybe its things that tie in together.
I will agree with the part where its stated above " body together" even possibly simulating sexual acts. I mean at a young age your mind thinks what it wants. Half the time in pics of women wrestling they do look like they are getting it on. so I guess the first thing you think of is sex. Makes perfect sense so please disregard all the BS I wrote in the above paragraphs!!! :)
Lets face it we're all abunch of perverts with mental issues ....
ok, I'm speaking for myself.
Nah, you're speaking for me too , LOL.
Like you guys I became hooked on female wrestling while a little kid. I woke up one evening after falling asleep watching some horror movie on my small black and white TV I had in my bedroom. Back then pro wrestling came on not only at 5 pm but also at 1 am and it happened to be on when I woke up.
When I cleared my sleepy eyes enough to get up and shut off the set, I noticed the match in progress was between ..... WOMEN !!! I just remember freezing after realizing what I was seeing as the two engaged in a grapevine test of strength !! I watched the blond and brunette rolling over and over, nose to nose, trying to pin each other with their legs interlocked which seemed like forever ! That was it ; I was fuked up for good from then on, LOL. Even that hold / manuver they did struck such a nerve in me that it is what lights me up to this day when watching matches.
For the longest time it was just female wrestling that interested me ; not so much catfights ( but would definitely be 'acceptable' if occuring in a movie, etc way back when ...) , boxing didn't do it and 'mixed' still hold as little appeal to me as college women's basket ball - something they'd use on me to get important info if I was a POW.
But as the internet came about I started to watch some catfights and started liking some aspects of that. DWW got me started in that direction with a couple of their old videos like ' Catfight Championship' and ' The Unforgiven'. I really became attracted to it when ECNWC arrived on the scene with their earlier match-ups ; especially their CF-32....... Vira /Jenn, Camille / Mia and Crystal /Kenzie which along with the two DWW's I mentioned , were the best CF videos I ever saw. Still none have ever come close IMO.
Then came sexfights with 'Ca Wildcats' then 'Chickfight' getting my orders ... with CF going strainght to the top in the last couple years in this area.
My FF wrestling favorites were Premier Productions because I always liked more in-shape and muscular women than the centerfold type, I guess because I've been involved in BB myself for so long. Premier's Charlene Rink became my ultimate favorite female wrestler ...
It's amazing how far it's all come ; from checking the late, late, late movies for one you knew had the 20 second girlfight to having too many half-assed producers that try and pass anything off on you.
From when I first started sending for mail orders from Calif Supreme when still in high school to now, I've seen the women's skills have went from the roll-around-and-giggle matches to the extremely skilled and unsexy chokes and joint locks.
Which is why I have to say I prefer 'semi-skilled' women. But a more accurate way to explain what I like would be to watch Charlene Rink in action ( Charlene vs Pavla or Charlene vs Lois as an examle ) from Premier.
As far as the 'why' the attraction; I have no idea as I doubt any one does. But I'll bet in most it started with all of us at a very young age. ( Damn, if I would have woken up that night about ten minurtes later, maybe I'd be 'normal' right now , LOL )
Sorry for the long-winded post ... but you got my attention first today after a pot of coffeein me with a favorite subject [spoiler]
Yep, as a kid the shock and thrill of seeing women wrasslin at an early age was like crack for us! Who knows Jim maybe if you were a good little boy and hit the sack afew minutes earlier you wouldn't be in this boat! Ofcourse imagine waking to something else that gained your interest!?!
On saturday mornings we had "creature double feature" and then wrestling .... and then bowling. Atleast two genre's stuck! Sorry to all the bowlers, I just know your cursing me right now :)~
And don't feel bad about a long winded post. Thats usually my bad!!!!!!
Besides close body contact, I might have added heavy breathing, sweating, and moaning, all of which recall sex of course.
As far as our mental health is concerned, I don't believe it's psychologically damaging unless you become so obsessed that you neglect your social and professional life. But that's true of any special interest: fly-fishing, say, or chess. I suppose it's harmful if wrestling or catfighting becomes an unconditional requirement that you absolutely NEED to have in order to get aroused. I know this can happen with several other fetishes (bondage, feet, sadomasochism), but maybe not ours. Lucky us, because unless you're Bill Gates rich, you won't find women willing to catfight in bed for your personal pleasure.
Morally I have no qualms about enjoying wrestling. I've seen several videos that have included candid footage from between rounds, and the women are often laughing, joking, mingling with the audience, massaging each other's backs, working on their sun-tans, and other stuff they wouldn't be doing if the experience was the least bit traumatic for them. After all, some women will actually pay high club membership fees to practise judo, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and other combat sports that are far more likely to result in injuries than your typical Modelfight video.
As for us being freaks, I believe that nine out of ten straight men would watch a Modelfight DVD or a Foxycombat DVD if it was accidentally dropped in their mailbox. Most of them would find it sexy. The difference, however, is that for most men, wrestling and catfighting is just one out of very many sexy things a woman can spend her time doing. Once the novelty has worn off, those nine out of ten men will probably prefer regular porn and forget that DVD. Not us.
I gave up trying to figure it out ages ago but that doesn't mean to say it still doesn't perplex me sometimes or that I still don't give it some thought, I think Tomas is correct in his assertion it's related to the act of sex, I enjoy watching both women's wrestling and catfights, It's with the catfights that the sexual element comes in, I mean, you have two women, grappling for supremacy using whatever methods they can to win, one woman will wrap her legs around her opponent and hey presto, it almost looks like a sexual position.
Another factor is the buildup, women can be competitive at the worst of times so seeing that look in their eye as they stare down another woman can be incrediblly sexy. I don't find real catfight films interesting either, Cal. Wildcats and to a certain extent Napali Video take that sexual element and compound it.
I've been fascinated by women wrestling literally my entire life. Without exaggeration, I can honestly say this interest has completely captivated me from my earliest memories as a child. Growing up, I felt extremely isolated. None of my friends (male or female) expressed any sort of inclination towards this interest. Except for finding the occasional video (usually by Triumph Studios) or the occasional Sports Review Wrestling magazine, I found very few items that led me to believe I shared this passion with any other human beings. It was frightening to me. I harbored fears that I would not be able to perform as "normal" guys would with members of the opposite sex. In some strange ways it would have been easier growing up gay since there was at least established support groups for like minded individuals. I've never been turned on by two women fighting for real. In other words it was always the sexual component of one woman dominating another that interested me. To this day I get squeamish viewing sites that purport to show women punching each other out in a non-sexual context. Only relatively recently, i.e. with the advent of the internet, do I now see that female grappling as a sexual turn on is an interest shared by thousands of folks across the world. Here is a well maintained link list to sites devoted to female wrestling. http://www.femfight2006jp.com/home.php Just to reiterate the international scope of the interest, this site is based out of Japan! I have always wanted to understand WHY this "fetish" for lack of a better word took hold of me at such an early age. I would also like to understand what commonalities there exist amongst female wrestling enthusiasts. For that to happen, this must therefore be a participatory blog. Please write in an open and honest manner so that as a group we may better understand who we are.
I'll share with you some of the dominant themes of my life as it relates to this sexual interest. For one, I distinctly remember being sexually excited by women wrestling each other at a very early age. Well before puberty and years before my peers developed an interest in sexual matters. This early compulsion caused me to look at all women in life in the context of fantasy. No matter the age or appearance of a woman in my life, she would be used in my mind as a wrestler and I would pit her up against another woman of my choosing. These sexual fantasies were quire elaborate. Breasts were weapons. Strong legs were made for scissors. Even before I was physically mature enough to ejaculate, these fantasy bouts would result in masturbation sessions which would climax with an orgasm. I suspected early on there was something psychologically wrong with me since nobody else my age seamed to a) think about sex or b) masturbate with the compulsion I was drawn to. As mentioned previously, it was not until the World Wide Web appeared that I had a clue that I wasn't nearly as alone as I was convinced I was. I'm eager to hear from others as to whether or not this parallels anything in your history. Anxiety issues naturally abounded. What kind of sexual partner would I be as an adult? Would I be able to perform with a woman in a sexual setting that is outside the scope of my fantasies? These feelings of being "different than" continued well into my adulthood. Today I am a married man with five children. For many years I was conflicted as between my "secret" female wrestling fantasies and my "performance" as a husband and father. To this day, I spend an inordinate amount of time exploring this hidden side of my sexuality.